tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9085926.post114070751969537635..comments2024-03-28T02:44:22.875-04:00Comments on Hecate: The Ability to Change Consciousness at Will??Hecatehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09291488568404382739noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9085926.post-1140998027295126522006-02-26T18:53:00.000-05:002006-02-26T18:53:00.000-05:00I hope this thread isn't dead yet. Last week whil...I hope this thread isn't dead yet. Last week while watching my niece during her Feb. vacation she asked me about my meditation practice. I told her about my "metta" practice. The act of thinking and feeling "May --- be well, may --- be happy, may--- be in a state of peace". She said, you're doing magic. I couldn't deny that it seems that way. While I do other forms of meditation it is this that is at the heart of it, the one which I wouldn't ever give up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9085926.post-1140853402794734462006-02-25T02:43:00.000-05:002006-02-25T02:43:00.000-05:00"feeling a bit guilty for "taking" a job "away" fr..."feeling a bit guilty for "taking" a job "away" from "a man," men didn't like it."<BR/><BR/>I remember way back in the 60's when I was trying to decide on whether to go to college and what to major in, my economist father said, "Unless you have a good idea what you want to major in, I hate to see you take the place of some young man who is going to support a family."<BR/><BR/>Those words came back to haunt me years later, after I went to Secretarial School instead, and I found myself unmarried, supporting myself at age 35 and feeling I had limited options. <BR/><BR/>That was just part of the path I chose, though, and I've found in recent years that the options are only limited by the scope of my own mind.Sandy-LA 90034https://www.blogger.com/profile/04226642904557171577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9085926.post-1140748000131234652006-02-23T21:26:00.000-05:002006-02-23T21:26:00.000-05:00Oh, I haven't had your depth of experience. Enligh...<I>Oh, I haven't had your depth of experience. Enlighten me. Make me a frog. SHOW ME.</I><BR/><BR/>Um... anonymous, I disagree: You really ARE obtuse. In fact, you seem to revel in it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9085926.post-1140740543809065802006-02-23T19:22:00.000-05:002006-02-23T19:22:00.000-05:00I say: We embrace the empirical.You say: Oh, I dou...I say: We embrace the empirical.<BR/><BR/>You say: <I>Oh, I doubt it. I agree with Milton here: whoever knew truth put to second best when scattered to the four winds?</I><BR/><BR/>Does that mean something?<BR/><BR/><I> Reality-based? Well, there are more things Horation. . . .</I><BR/><BR/>Oh, I haven't had your depth of experience. Enlighten me. Make me a frog. SHOW ME.<BR/><BR/><I>But you're being deliberately obtuse about what Coyle and I are saying.</I><BR/><BR/>Really, I'm not being obtuse. I object to any use of "magic" in descriptions of actual events. It's this kind of thing that leaves us open to charges of being moonbats. The fundies think it's blasphemous, the libertarians think it's fantasy, and those of us who have some sort of reality based viewpoint are left to excuse people like you while disagreeing with your fundamental position. Not helpful.<BR/><BR/><I> Whatever gets you through the night.</I><BR/><BR/>That's sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9085926.post-1140739122411380032006-02-23T18:58:00.000-05:002006-02-23T18:58:00.000-05:00While this has nothing to do with magic per se, I ...While this has nothing to do with magic per se, I was reminded by the body of your post that the change we wanted to happen in women's rights began happening not with the much ballyhooed "first female this or that" but when you realized you weren't hearing phrases like "lady" doctor or "lady" lawyer anymore as though it were an abberation.catalexishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12973926928483005689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9085926.post-1140738238204384592006-02-23T18:43:00.000-05:002006-02-23T18:43:00.000-05:00When you talk favorably about magic, you're hurtin...<A>When you talk favorably about magic, you're hurting our civilization, which is based on a communal (as opposed to an esoteric) notion of truth. We embrace the empirical.</A><BR/><BR/>Oh, I doubt it. I agree with Milton here: whoever knew truth put to second best when scattered to the four winds? Reality-based? Well, there are more things Horation. . . .But you're being deliberately obtuse about what Coyle and I are saying. Whatever gets you through the night.Hecatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09291488568404382739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9085926.post-1140732800326408212006-02-23T17:13:00.000-05:002006-02-23T17:13:00.000-05:00I think one of Ms. Coyle's points is that even mag...<I>I think one of Ms. Coyle's points is that even magic practitioners can get the meanings confused and think that, rather than changing themselves, magic can be used to do "magic tricks."</I><BR/><BR/>I would resort to here another quote, this time from Webster's, but I doubt that it would avail me much. Let's try this instead:<BR/><BR/>When you talk favorably about magic, you're hurting our civilization, which is based on a communal (as opposed to an esoteric) notion of truth. We embrace the empirical.<BR/><BR/>We're reality based.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9085926.post-1140731447539098822006-02-23T16:50:00.000-05:002006-02-23T16:50:00.000-05:00Chop wood.Carry water.Really.Chop wood.<BR/>Carry water.<BR/><BR/>Really.QuinnLaBellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15503652345940844877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9085926.post-1140730626996656532006-02-23T16:37:00.000-05:002006-02-23T16:37:00.000-05:00i love your blog, Hecate! good, good stuff!--her ...i love your blog, Hecate! good, good stuff!<BR/><BR/>--her eyesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9085926.post-1140730611058129442006-02-23T16:36:00.000-05:002006-02-23T16:36:00.000-05:00anon,That's one of my favorite Alice quotes. But ...anon,<BR/><BR/>That's one of my favorite Alice quotes. But words do have more than one meaning. If I tell you that I'm going to the bank, without context you don't know if I mean the place where they keep my money or the place beside the river where I like to sit and think. <BR/><BR/>Magic is one of those words that can mean differnt things. Here, it's not being used to mean, for example, magic tricks. It's being used to mean a form of spiritual growth. <BR/><BR/>I think one of Ms. Coyle's points is that even magic practitioners can get the meanings confused and think that, rather than changing themselves, magic can be used to do "magic tricks."Hecatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09291488568404382739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9085926.post-1140729697437907292006-02-23T16:21:00.000-05:002006-02-23T16:21:00.000-05:00"I don't know what you mean by 'glory,' " Alice sa..."I don't know what you mean by 'glory,' " Alice said.<BR/> Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. "Of course you don't—till I tell you. I meant 'there's a nice knock-down argument for you!' "<BR/> "But 'glory' doesn't mean 'a nice knock-down argument,' " Alice objected.<BR/> "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."<BR/> "The question is, " said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."<BR/> "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty. "which is to be master—that's all."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9085926.post-1140728786192086072006-02-23T16:06:00.000-05:002006-02-23T16:06:00.000-05:00anonymous,I don't think you're using the word "mag...anonymous,<BR/><BR/>I don't think you're using the word "magic" the same way that Coyle and I use it. Her whole point is that magic is about changing yourself on an internal level. Has nothing to do w/ fleecing the rubes.Hecatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09291488568404382739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9085926.post-1140724288455091522006-02-23T14:51:00.000-05:002006-02-23T14:51:00.000-05:00Magic is good for fleecing the rubes. Not good for...Magic is good for fleecing the rubes. Not good for getting things done in the real world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9085926.post-1140721366387731322006-02-23T14:02:00.000-05:002006-02-23T14:02:00.000-05:00I agree. I think it is a dance--inner and outer to...I agree. I think it is a dance--inner and outer together. Though I am Christian, I think I understand what you are (she is) saying. We get that type of thing too--we can pray for homeless people--or get off our asses and work for housing etc. Neither inner work or outer work is ever done. During the "self-help" phase, we went through a "I can't help anyone until I have my life figured out." At that time, we had a pastor who reminded us that our brothers and sisters couldn't wait until we got our shit together.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com