tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9085926.post8269737807453126420..comments2024-03-28T02:44:22.875-04:00Comments on Hecate: I've Said It Before: I Would Chew Off My Right Arm To Write Like AthenaeHecatehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09291488568404382739noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9085926.post-60090086801511782872010-07-28T18:29:00.622-04:002010-07-28T18:29:00.622-04:00The form of suffering that is meaningful comes whe...<i>The form of suffering that is meaningful comes when we stop repressing and take up our moral task as humans to deal consciously with our pain.</i><br /><br />No, actually. It's nice to be able to deal with it consciously, and it makes for growth and becoming whole, sure, but there is no <i>moral</i> obligation to do so, and people who don't, or can't, are not therefore 'immoral', which is the implication in this framing. I will not have anything to do with that, so no.<br /><br />The older I get the more I know that compassion and kindness are really all that count. And that starts with compassion and kindness for the self. Which means, for me, not pushing if I am afraid. <i>That</i> is my moral obligation to myself.Thaliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09948272740932982138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9085926.post-49913823152933602102010-07-28T18:02:57.221-04:002010-07-28T18:02:57.221-04:00I am actually doing it now, and am not stopping my...I am actually doing it now, and am not stopping myself. What has stopped me before was an unwillingness to deal with, and so live within, pain. This is not unusual or unhealthy, I think.<br /><br />I don't know if anything is pushing me right now. It is simply the right time and I am in a place where I can handle it.<br /><br />I am lucky enough that I have a personality (ISFP) that means if I know in my bones it must be done I have no choice but to do it, even if I'm scared. No choice. This automatically cuts through a lot of the bullshit of things.Thaliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09948272740932982138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9085926.post-50077088767921220192010-07-28T02:35:42.783-04:002010-07-28T02:35:42.783-04:00wadr, I'm starting to think my place on Earth ...wadr, I'm starting to think my place on Earth has something to do with giving voice to the following, for however long it takes:<br /><br />FOR AS LONG AS it is true (and by that I mean we have no more need to speak in hypotheticals because, by golly, we know it to be fact), that there are places where people are searching for people on lists because why, well we aren't really sure, but there are thousands of them and they have leadership qualities but they live among the riff raff and that can't possibly be good and so and so and so, CAN WE please stop bottom lining so-called causal narratives in a manner that doesn't account for reality? Or different possible realities? <br /><br />The very definition of a Fifth-Street suckout moment is to have played all your cards exactly right given the parameters and having the lesser probable event occur nonetheless. Then what? Sweet Maude, anything but reductionism. <br /><br />Humbled by the Genome's Mysteries:<br />Stephen Jay Gould<br /><br />"The reductionist method works triumphantly for simple systems -- predicting eclipses or the motion of planets (but not the histories of their complex surfaces), for example.<br />[....]<br />"The failure of reductionism doesn't mark the failure of science, but only the replacement of an ultimately unworkable set of assumptions by more appropriate styles of explanation that study complexity at its own level and respect the influences of unique histories." <br /><br />Occam would love a more workable set of assumptions (fewer new bizarro ones, plz.) and all of us could use more appropriate styles of explanation.<br />That's the push for the next evolution. Just a guess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9085926.post-85917425304400948312010-07-28T02:23:12.364-04:002010-07-28T02:23:12.364-04:00Very thought-provoking post. I presume that you...Very thought-provoking post. I presume that you've read Frankl's work on the relationship between meaning and suffering (particularly <i>Man's Search for Meaning</i>).<br /><br />And, by the way, you have no need to envy Athenae--or anyone. Most of your writing is pure poetry.Makarioshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08392249532355639518noreply@blogger.com